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Post by strobex10 on Oct 27, 2005 14:37:32 GMT
On the X10 Chassis Settings sheet that came with car, Just a few things i need help with. Ground clearance. Where are these measurements taken from. Anti-roll bars. Soft and hard on rear wishbones. Are there seperate holes for soft/hard. And finally on front top wishbones does 1 washer = 1 deg of camber.
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Post by chris burgess on Oct 27, 2005 14:51:26 GMT
not sure about the washers and camber situation as I have not measured it, but if you look on the rear wishbones, you will see another hole near to where you have attached the roll-bar mount. It is my understanding that the "other hole" gives you a different anti-roll bar stiffness.
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Post by danreynolds on Oct 28, 2005 17:35:05 GMT
The outside holes on the lower wishbones give a 'soft' roll bar and the inside holes are for the 'hard' roll bar setting
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Post by Northy on Oct 28, 2005 18:09:40 GMT
Dan, are you sure? I thought it would have been the other way round.
G
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Post by danreynolds on Oct 29, 2005 16:03:14 GMT
I’m 99% sure, if you use the outside holes for the roll bar mounts then the roll bar will be longer, and thus have more flex in it making it softer. By using the inside holes it effectively shortens the roll bar and the bar wont flex as much, so it feels stiffer.
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Post by Northy on Oct 29, 2005 16:19:48 GMT
Ah but by using the outer holes (longest bar) you are increasing the leverage on the bar which makes it work more.
This is how full size adjustable antiroll bars work to the best of my knowledge.
Cheers
G
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Post by danreynolds on Oct 30, 2005 11:19:59 GMT
I remember seeing a Losi touring car (it may even have been the JRX-S) where you could change the strength of the roll bar by moving the position of where the bar was mounted. The standard position for there roll bars was s short link, but you could make them softer by moving the link back and making it longer, so in theory this should be true so the X10 roll bars as well.
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Post by Northy on Nov 1, 2005 21:03:02 GMT
I'm going to ask Richard
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Post by Tim Wood on Nov 1, 2005 21:12:16 GMT
i already did!The inner holes are the hardest setting,outer are the softest setting.Clears that one up then!lol
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Post by Northy on Nov 1, 2005 21:35:12 GMT
Tim,
Inner and outer in relation to what?
I thought pick-up points closest to the centre of the car would be hardest. Was I right or wrong?
Cheers
G
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Post by Tim Wood on Nov 1, 2005 22:56:07 GMT
The pickups being placed nearest the chassis centre(furthest away from the wheels) gives you the hardest roll bar setting.Nearest the wheels and furthest from the chassis centre is the 'soft' option. Thats direct from Richard today ;D
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Post by Northy on Nov 1, 2005 23:04:46 GMT
I was right!
Thats how full size adjustable bars work ;D
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Post by YoKoMo-MX4 on Nov 2, 2005 20:44:03 GMT
...umm don't you mean danreynolds was right? ;D The outside holes on the lower wishbones give a 'soft' roll bar and the inside holes are for the 'hard' roll bar setting The pickups being placed nearest the chassis centre(furthest away from the wheels) gives you the hardest roll bar setting.Nearest the wheels and furthest from the chassis centre is the 'soft' option. Thats direct from Richard today ;D 'nuff said, MX4
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Post by Northy on Nov 3, 2005 0:02:44 GMT
I said that the long link (pick ups closest to the centre of the chassis) gave the hardest setting, and the short link (pick ups furthest away from the centre of the chassis) was the soft setting. Is this right? I don't really care who was right or wrong now I just want to know!
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Post by YoKoMo-MX4 on Nov 3, 2005 3:33:27 GMT
I said that the long link (pick ups closest to the centre of the chassis) gave the hardest setting, and the short link (pick ups furthest away from the centre of the chassis) was the soft setting. Is this right? I don't really care who was right or wrong now I just want to know! UFFDA! I wasn't meaing to point out that you were or were not right ... you were (are) right by the way. My confusion is with your naming convention describing the 'inner pickup point' as the 'long link' ... to me that would be a 'short link' since less of the roll bar is being torqued.... ANYWAY ... it turns out everyone knew what was going on from the start ... ;D For the same rollbar thickness: Inner Pickup == Harder Outer Pickup == Softer 'nuff said, MX4
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