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Post by chris burgess on Sept 11, 2006 8:52:11 GMT
I think Mr North has done this before, but yesterday I decided for no other reason other than an experiment to run the pushrods mounted UNDER the rockers.
The suspension became much softer and seemed much smoother throughout the range of movement. I also (obviously) had much more droop. And do you know something? The cars handling seemed transformed. It went over the bumps at Southport as though they were not there, and having run G's Southport setup on my Pred, which was pretty damned good, with the pushrods mounted underneath the rockers the car was awesome.... does anybody with any suspension knowledge know why this would be?
I think it may be because there is so much more droop on the front now, so maybe having the revised rocker arms may do the same?
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Post by restimax on Sept 11, 2006 9:54:55 GMT
is old! ;D I use them from months, and northy he has same system with the new ones crank  why it is that they change the angles of incidence, the push road works better making little effort |
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Post by chris burgess on Sept 11, 2006 10:01:47 GMT
It's old news....how typical is that?
OK, so it may be an old trick, but it's a bloody good one.
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Post by restimax on Sept 11, 2006 10:09:35 GMT
I from when I have tried it, have always held it therefore.  to be little ruined also the front gear top box where the pivot screw rocker crank unfortunately seen my difficulty with English I cannot say more  |
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Post by chris burgess on Sept 11, 2006 10:46:08 GMT
you should see my difficulty with Italian....  I have not removed any material from the gearbox top yet, but I know I need to. |
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Post by restimax on Sept 11, 2006 10:52:05 GMT
you should see my difficulty with Italian.... I have not removed any material from the gearbox top yet, but I know I need to. it's okay! with the old assembly, after much time the pivot crank they were become relaxed why the thread in the front top gear was gotten ruined with the vibrations, hour does not succeed more. I hope is understood? |
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Post by Northy on Sept 11, 2006 11:42:52 GMT
My car was dialed round Southport! ;D
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Post by Cooper on Sept 11, 2006 12:02:34 GMT
on the Pre X10 cars the pushrods are also attached under the rocker.
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Post by restimax on Sept 11, 2006 17:14:15 GMT
you should see my difficulty with Italian.... I have not removed any material from the gearbox top yet, but I know I need to. the material comes only removed with the new crank |
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Post by modelimages on Sept 12, 2006 17:42:10 GMT
i have repositioned the pushrods and sure enough the front end appears very soft, what do i do about spring and shock oil
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Post by Northy on Sept 12, 2006 19:28:14 GMT
What track are you running on?
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Post by modelimages on Sept 12, 2006 22:25:54 GMT
joe runs at all the nationals with it next race is tiverton f3's. he had it pretty consistant at holbeach missing some top end power but handling ok, he had 4 runs all around 12 laps with a 12 -16 sec split, qualified d3. i suppose were lookimg for fine tuning really, can't quite get the balance between the front and rear, set up is 50wt rear and 35 front black springs all round kit standard pistons any suggestions?
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Post by DirtRacer on Sept 13, 2006 5:00:32 GMT
I from when I have tried it, have always held it therefore. to be little ruined also the front gear top box where the pivot screw rocker crank unfortunately seen my difficulty with English I cannot say more Dude, you make a good impersonation of an english comedian (ALI G) ;D (this is not meant to be a sarcastic comment) but a compliment in a funny way.. hehe. Your english is just fine, apparently my england comprende is not all too good (so i been told), maybe cuz i is not from from english.. ;D |
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Post by Northy on Sept 13, 2006 6:50:47 GMT
joe runs at all the nationals with it next race is tiverton f3's. he had it pretty consistant at holbeach missing some top end power but handling ok, he had 4 runs all around 12 laps with a 12 -16 sec split, qualified d3. i suppose were lookimg for fine tuning really, can't quite get the balance between the front and rear, set up is 50wt rear and 35 front black springs all round kit standard pistons any suggestions? Was Joe in heat one? I was marshalling that race and there was an X10 going very well in it. When you say you can't get the balance, in what way? G |
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Post by modelimages on Sept 13, 2006 8:32:57 GMT
balance is probably the wrong word, it seems that the rear is too hard and does not ride the bumps tending to just flip the rear into the air,whereas the front seems too soft and bottoms out, we got the back right at holbeach and the front almost right, by moving the pushrods underneath we have a lot more droop but to get the ride height back there will be a lot of spacers required, don't get me wrong the car is getting better and is very good on the set up we have i am just looking for something to get a little faster lap times. joe was in heat 3 his times were all 12 laps on a 12,16,17,16 sec split so consistancy is there his best laps were between 24.41 and 25.15, checking your times you were 12 on a 2,7,3,4 split with best laps of 24.61 to 24.75, he isn't far away from you on lap times so it really is fine tuning i am looking for.
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