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Post by chris burgess on Dec 28, 2006 11:05:39 GMT
...today (well on the 23rd December, but the postman couldn't be arsed carrying it, and actually handed me the post office note saying whilst you were out...)
Anyway, it looks very impressive, top quality and rather "bling". It made me laugh that the pictures of it installed in a car were pictures of it in a Tamiya Tourer.....then I tried to fit it in the pred....I now know why the pictures of it are in a touring car.
Anyway, i will make it fit, but the only place I can think it will fit is inbetween the wing mounts on the rear of the car - it looks as though some of the chassis and a fairly big section of bodyshell will have to be cut away to make it fit where Richard said he put one on the "test pred".....pictures to follow!
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Post by tom on Dec 28, 2006 11:45:10 GMT
I thought RW had the rad mounted on the front nearside behind the front wishbone, where the steering link is on the opposing side?
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Post by chris burgess on Dec 28, 2006 11:47:17 GMT
He did...but the "lip" on the top of the chassis is in the way, and the radiator is too deep to sit flush with the side of the chassis without removing some of the lip...
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Post by chris burgess on Dec 28, 2006 20:38:07 GMT
As you lot may have guessed, I like T.tech, I really do. But sometimes I am left really pissed off..... The TCS system arrived today, and I have spent ages trying to get it to fit. The extra motor screws they supply to fit the motor onto the motor plate and clamp are 5mm too short. When the motor plate is fitted to the car the pinion no longer meshes with the spur gear. The radiator doesn't actually appear to fit anywhere unless the chassis meets Mr Dremmel - I am now left wondering if the TCS was ever fitted to the X10 in testing at all. I need to find some "long-bossed" pinions now to see if they alleviate the mesh problem, as I can find a practical way around the other problems. The good news is this though, I reckon it will fit my B4 nicely, as we all know how they overheat....  Rant Over. This is a little late, but it is an update of why I initially had trouble fitting the TCS to the X10 in the original mounting position....
Originally the Radiator had the inlet and outlet fitted to the radiator at 90° to the top, so the pipes went straight into the chassis and then onto the pump. The radiator was mounted to the chassis using servo mounts screwed to the chassis and then the radiator was fixed to the servo mounts using tie-wraps. If the current radiator had the same inlet/outlet unions then mounting the system would prove to be very simple indeed, with minimal cutting od the bodyshell.
Oh, and the TCS system was [glow=red,2,300]DEFINATELY [/glow]tested on the X10....
And another thing....The pictures that appeared on this forum months ago of water cooling system were indeed very early prototypes of the TCS system that we have now. ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by wailinonya on Dec 29, 2006 1:50:28 GMT
A company called Niftech here in America produces a motor shaft extension that can also alleviate the problem you are having. By using this it will allow you to use the pinions you already have. It is a bit pricey though, I think around $20 but it spins true and does what it says! www.niftech.com |
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Post by chris burgess on Dec 29, 2006 7:12:21 GMT
in comparison to a new set of long-boss pinions, it's not that expensive....when the currency rate is applied, 4 pinions are around the same price..
Thanks!
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Post by chris burgess on Dec 29, 2006 19:57:44 GMT
right then....it's in ;D
it was not exactly difficult, but it did take some thought, and the problem is, when i put the pictures up later on (when I have found my camera!) you will all wonder what the fuss was all about!
you will also probably wonder why I have put it where it is, (its in between the motor and the cells) but it was the only place that it was fully protected, and in some amount of airflow - now that I have re-vented the front window.
as soon as I have the long boss pinions, I will give it a blast and let you know how it performs.
before then, I will be speaking to Richard, and no doubt the installation will change!
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Post by strobex10 on Dec 29, 2006 21:23:19 GMT
Chris.
What weight is the TCS System?
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Post by chris burgess on Dec 30, 2006 8:06:08 GMT
it weighs around 38g without the pipes and coolant, so i would guess overall it's no more than 40g when fitted....
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Post by chris burgess on Dec 30, 2006 12:14:04 GMT
 Ok, so it's not the neatest job in the world, (the silicone tubes have been cut long enough to be flexible and not kink) but there's quite a bit to get into the small space! The yellow tie-wraps are not really required to hold the pipes on, as the silicone tube has a good hold of the inlets, but better to be safe than sorry. despite the radiator being down behind the cells, it still "should" see a reasonable airflow (especially with my newly cut out dront window), only time will tell if the radiator is effective there - the radiator is mounted with really strong velcro so that it can be easily removed when the motor is taken out of the car - another reason for the slightly over length piping. the two clear silicone pipes are used when filling/bleeding the system - I must say that filling the system is an absolute breeze - far easier than I thought it would be. there is also a neat LED strobe light on the pump that flashes on and off when the pump is working OK. That's probably my favourite bit! |
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Post by silversnow on Dec 30, 2006 17:33:16 GMT
Hey, looks really nice! but having it in front of the motor like that all the heat you are taking away from the motor is flowing back over it again. I know it will help some, but it is not as efficient as having it away from the motor. I know it is super hard to find a place to put it. How about cutting a small hole in the windshield and putting it up on something in the middle? That would be a pain if you are in muddy or dusty conditions.
How can i upload some pic in a reply?
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Post by chris burgess on Dec 30, 2006 17:45:58 GMT
oooohhhh
just been on the 'phone to Richard, and I now have a cunning plan.
My reason for fitting the system where I have is that is's basically not in the way, and it is getting some air.
After speaking to richard, the newly suggested place is as you have suggested silversnow, and that is ontop of the cells, mounted on a lexan plate. That way it can be attached to one battery strap and it will remain mobile.
So ignore the picture above, and watch this space for the next installation.
The most radical suggestion is to remove the receiver, cut a hole in the chassis, mount the radiator over the hole and then mount the reciever back ontop of the radiator....I' think i will try the lexan idea first!
incidentally, I am also going to move the pump and re-route that to a slightly different place.
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Post by Northy on Dec 30, 2006 17:58:01 GMT
Well hurry up with it man! ;D
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Post by chris burgess on Dec 31, 2006 12:44:54 GMT
it will be done today/tomorrow....I promise.
I may use an old rear wing to mount the radiator onto, so i can get the rad angled up behind the "front window" of the car, although it really depends on what lexan i can find lying around...
I am also going to get in touch with someone to see if a carbon fibre battery strap that incorporates a fixing plate for the radiator can be made..... that would be a good way round the issue....
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Post by Northy on Dec 31, 2006 17:20:10 GMT
Chris, do you need something CAD'ing up? I can help if you do.
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